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Song vs Song suggestion, (Creative Commons music)
I don't understand why Gard promotes copyrighted songs in his podcast. I mean its not about the legality, but more about the philosophy. Copyrighted songs intend to use government granted monopoly to make money. On the other hand there are numerous artists and bands out there who have released their music under Creative Commons and they have no exposure because they don't have big recording labels behind them.
I believe that the Cabal should do more to promote these artists who(for whatever reasons) have decided to not use the government monopoly to make money. We wonder why there aren't truely Liberty oriented music out there, the truth is a music cannot be truely Liberty oriented if it is brought to you by the government monopoly.
I believe that the song vs song should be made out only from songs released under Creative Commons license(and any other free licencing).
The largest collection of creative commons songs exists on Jamendo.
However, I do understand that good music, is just good music. Just because a music is released under creative commons license does not automatically make it the better music(although it does have more Liberty in it, lol).
So my suggestion is, that the Song vs Song, should be between the Copyrighted or non-Creative commons songs, AND Creative Commons or truely free songs. To make the competition fair, Gard should not announce which song is the creative commons song, and which one is not(although it will take no more than a google search to find out, yet, our intention is to have only the song judged on its pure merit), to prevent any bias.
This way the Cabal will discover good music(whichever licensed it was released under), as well as the creative commons pool will get promotion.
Please let your opinion regarding the suggestion in this thread. Here is a list of my personal best creative commons music.
Pop
http://www.jamendo.com/en/album/4301
Jazz/Chillout/Lounge
http://www.jamendo.com/en/album/3777
Rock/Alternative
http://www.jamendo.com/en/album/20784
http://www.jamendo.com/en/album/7168
Melodic guitar
http://www.jamendo.com/en/album/1749
Chillout/Electronic Jazz
http://www.jamendo.com/en/album/3774
Reggae+Hip Hop+Rock
http://www.jamendo.com/en/album/31406
Rock/Heavy Metal Instrumental
http://www.jamendo.com/en/album/3317
This is a really cool idea. I know personally a couple of musical artists that release under a creative commons license. Probably nobody has heard of my friends the artist know to me as MC2or to the rest of the world as Marc Cantlin II and my other friend known as '5'. And this would be a cool way to expose people like this to a larger audience.
Check out 5's website http://5-track.com/
Another reason to vote for Osborne this week, besides the multitude of obvious ones, is that Pennywise released their last album for free on the internet. The scheme was not as hardcore anti-IP as we would like, but pretty cool nonetheless.
Being anti-IP is good but most of the artists who do post their art for free rarely are actually anti IP... just pissed at how the current system works or are just taking a practical approach. Trent Reznor for example is and has tried several different distribution methods including outright free (as in beer) albums online. But they are released under Collective Commons which rely on copyright law. He also released individual tracks from each song to allow for remixing... again under the same license. His main reasons for doing appears to be the reasons I stated but it's hardly anti-IP.
It's like open source software... people like Richard Stallman talk about "free software" but they use IP law to enforce it.
If Dr Osbourne wins I wamt to to take him on as I got a track that will blow him away!
It's not looking good. Evidently, the Conspirators love authoritarianism.
Wow I cannot believe Bile's choice is winning! Oh well, all in good fun.
I 'll take bile on if he wins
Its going to be the only time I'm ever going to get Gard to play NMA lol
As I said before, good music is good music. I have loved songs about America(like Hands that built America, and Amerika by Rammstein) even long before I reached the shores of America, because they were good songs.
Osborne's song is good, but bile's song has much better music. Secondly, I don't really subscribe to "Fuck the Authority". Fuck the government, yes, but fuck the authority is just leftist-anarchist crap. If I am standing on Disneyland and they ask me to follow a law they have(like stand in line to get on the rides) I don't say "fuck the authority" and destory their order.
At the end that is why I voted for Bile'e song.
"I'd like to see a forklift lift a crate of forks. It would be so literal!" -Mitch Hedberg
I know words are important, however sometimes I think people take them a bit too literally. However it's all in good fun and I respect your opinion none the less. Actually I posted a Pennywise song a few days before Jason actually decided his pick against Bile! Naturally I had to vote for Jason's song = ( I did think it was awesome that he in fact picked a Pennywise song to begin with. After it was all said and done I thought "damn, too bad he didn't go w/ the song I posted in "fastest drummer" just a couple of days ago! Check out, you might like this one a little bit better... I hope = D -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eN1kaGxsuQ
Come on, now. You know that "fuck arbitrary authority" or "fuck authority unless it is derived from legitimate property rights" just doesn't roll off the tongue very well.
Haha true!
But there is something about Libertarianism and music which just doesn't sit together.
Just like "Fuck Authority" becomes inaccurate, similarly "Fuck the Government" might become too big of a blanket to cover. "Fuck the Police" will be again facing the same problem("Fuck Govt Police" or "Fuck monpolistic Police" will also not roll off well on tongue).
"Fuck IRA" sounds good(because there is no free market equivalent of IRA like it is there for Police). "Fuck Bernanke" or "Greenspan the Commissar" or "Fuck the Feds" or "Fuck Federal Reserve" might sound well
"Stabilization is Choas" also has a good sound. lol!
Bumping the thread, and pointing out people to the site:
Jamendo
http://www.jamendo.com
I added this to the Hardest song shit, however I don't think it's worth it's salt unless it's in this quadrent of the websticles... enjoy...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBQqlIAZ9Rs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl1G8h6nCNk
Amazon / We All Love Judy
This is one of the best performances you will ever see
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=582vYjuT1x0&feature=player_embedded
I have been checking this site out, and been digging the french music on that site.
I think that one of the reasons many people that are bent on freedom (for lack of a better term) haven't adopted music in the creative commons is just out of familiarity with the music that has come through established commercial channels.
My musical tastes are often described as quite strange. I don't know how this came to be, but it probably has something to do with my interest in the Bohemian music of Bela Bartok and Zoltan Kodaly, whom I became familiar with through etudes in my muscial studies.
After my formal training stopped, I became intersted in avant-gardmusic (although I disagree with the terminology used to describe this music). The jazz artists, Mingus, Coltrane, Parker, and Pat Martino I found to be particularly enthralling. The psychedelic sounds of rock bands like Zero, The Hampton Grease Band, and perhaps the best known of this subgenre of suck rock and ointment, Captain Beefheart and his Magic Band, and Frank Zappa.
Geez Furb you are so cultured and shit. I am jeloush of your well rounded knoledge of all that. However there are times one just needs to jam! Rock on!
Butthole Surfers - Goofy's Concern
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2kIkM2zQk8&feature=player_embedded
Butthole Surfers - Dust Devil
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE8tg3hONzQ&feature=player_embedded
Butthole Surfers - The Wooden Song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCY2F3raNt8