The Reek Of Nationalism Is Almost Upon Us Thanks To The World Cup

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ziggy_encaoua
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Posted on: June 3, 2010 - 11:36am

I prefer to be in South Africa right now where the World Cup is being held because ironically I reckon they’d be less jino nationalism then there’s going to be here in England.

Its funny but 20 years ago it wasn’t as nad as it is now if you aren’t English living in England when the England football team qualify for the World Cup or the European Championships.

I’m already seeing the bumper stickers, the chavs wearing England garb & people flying England banners outside their homes, you know the World Cup is almost about to begin & there will be the reek of nationalism bearing upon all.

I’ve got nothing against anybody supporting their national football team, but here in England it often boils over into more then jinngo nationalism but into outright nationalistm being used as an excuse for violence.

Personally I was threatened with being glassed in a pub a few years back the last time England qualified for the European championships because I was wearing a kilt & wasn’t joining in the celebrations.

During the last World Cup a friend’s son was beaten up after an England game because he wasn’t wearing an England shirt.

Part of me is thinking to survive I should buy one of the cheapy England T-shirts being sold in my local supermarket & simulate into the mob so I can survive whilst England are still in the tournament.

I detest nationalism to me its very much the enemy of individualism, because its people hiding their insecurities & inadequacies behind a flag & false collectivist premise.

I do hope England do well this World Cup because it will make people happy, but unlike many people I’m not going to hold it against others if they don’t support England or support another national team.


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LysanderSpooner
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Posted on: June 3, 2010 - 3:16pm #1

Sarcasm alert.

Ziggy,

Would you speak English for God's sake?  I looked up chav and I figured out what glassed meant, but what does nad mean?  In the States, and probably elsewhere, it means testicles.

Otherwise I appreciated your post.  I'm a football (soccer) fan.  I used to play.  But I just like players and the game.  I don't even root for club teams, let alone national ones.

Incidentally, it is fashionable among some people in America, including some so-called libertarians, to call soccer a socialist sport.  Here's an article by neocon Stephen Moore, who some libertarians claim as one of our own.

http://www.ncc-1776.org/tle1998/libe42-19980727-04.html

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ziggy_encaoua
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Posted on: June 3, 2010 - 4:04pm #2

Glazen betekent dat iemand dreigt om u te doen met een bierglas


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LysanderSpooner
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Posted on: June 3, 2010 - 8:29pm #3

Afrikaans?


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ziggy_encaoua
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Posted on: June 4, 2010 - 3:34am #4

yes


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LysanderSpooner
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Posted on: June 4, 2010 - 3:45am #5

What does "nad" mean?

My understanding from your podcast with Gard is that you grew up in SA.  How long did you live there?  And how difficult was it for your family to immigrate to the UK?  And if I may be nosy, why did they leave?


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ziggy_encaoua
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Posted on: June 4, 2010 - 11:06am #6

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My grandma brought me to Britain when I was 8 years old she’s my next of kin & as she married a Brit she had a British passport & so I qualified for a British passport.

 

As for why we came to Britain well its kind of personal though I did tell Gard not so long ago.

 


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LysanderSpooner
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Posted on: June 4, 2010 - 1:58pm #7

Thanks.  I didn't mean to pry.  I am always interested in finding out what motivates people to immigrate.  The way things are going here, I may have to move to New Hampshire or even leave the country.


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ziggy_encaoua
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Posted on: June 8, 2010 - 8:58am #8

I hear Costa Rica is nice


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ziggy_encaoua
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Posted on: June 11, 2010 - 10:35am #9

Okay I'm going to admit it when South Africa just scored in the openning game I went ape shit


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Posted on: July 20, 2010 - 12:35pm #10

Interesting documentary on the economics of the World Cup.  It's available for instant viewing on Netflix.

http://www.amazon.com/World-Cup-Soccer-Africa-Really/dp/B003BV8IBI

 

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