Muse band member Matt Bellamy advocates taxation as file sharing solution

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Posted on: September 18, 2009 - 3:01am

http://digg.com/music/Muse_Singer_Matt_Bellamy_Speaks_Out_About_File_Sha...

 

I was looking forward to picking up the new album, but it looks like my money might be better spent with an artist not advocating for more government.

 

 

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Posted on: September 18, 2009 - 7:12am #1

By the way I thought I heard Gardner say he'd heard Bellamy was libertarian I think he needs to prefix that with geo.

 


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Posted on: September 18, 2009 - 5:31pm #2

Yes, that's correct.

 

Seems Bellamy is a contrarian conspiracy theorist who thinks government, the very thing he appears to criticize in lyrics of his songs, is a good solution when it comes to sorting out his means to profit. A few small problems with that, including the fact that in order to tax people based on downloads, it would lead to further invasion of privacy by government AND also the recording industry. Swell...


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Posted on: September 26, 2009 - 6:05am #3

peppermint_pig wrote:

Seems Bellamy is a contrarian conspiracy theorist who thinks government, the very thing he appears to criticize in lyrics of his songs,

Unfortunately libertarians do tend to have a bad habit of viewing everything in black & white terms.

Just because somebody might be sceptical of government doesn't mean they want to completely demolish government.


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Posted on: September 27, 2009 - 11:06pm #4

I wasn't aware that rejecting aggression on principle was a 'bad habit' and made me blind to the complexities of reality. Stereotypes are not arguments. They do not support the more informative critique you imply.

 

"Just because somebody might be sceptical of government doesn't mean they want to completely demolish government."

 

Bellamy proves as much. Whatever good Bellamy might promote in the name of liberty, it is not an incongruous notion to identify the contradictions in his thinking. The direct nature of my critique should not require a concern for the sensibility of potential readers. You can make your position known directly without tripping over presumptions.

 


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Posted on: September 26, 2009 - 4:36am #9

It's always disappointing to read something like this - Billy Joe Armstrong's arse-licking of Obama comes to mind. It's somewhat odd after him writing songs like 'Minority.'  

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Posted on: October 2, 2009 - 10:41pm #10

PP, all...

I'm here in Ithaca, NY, at the Rod Serling conference, and got a chance to read the comments on this. Fascinating. Yeah, I think you all have good points, and that PP says it well that one can recognize the positive things Matt B does for liberty, while also pointing out inconsistencies in his reasoning that deviate from his general worldview.

In this thread, the quotes of Bellamy indicate that he is obviously a very bright and thoughtful guy. One merely wishes that he would look towards the free market (freedom in general) to set up and test these kinds of payment schemes, rather than having them imposed by force of government (which, as was pointed out, is the very construct he often decries). This inspires one to think about how Bellamy's position (if instituted privately, through the market) runs counter to the government motif of so-called "Net Neutrality", which would prohibit ISPs and browsers from providing higher levels of service for a premium price. if only he would talk about trying his idea out in the private market, he could then speak out against the "NN" movement, in favor of letting markets provide different levels of service to different kinds of demand.

Just some thoughts, cats!

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Posted on: October 3, 2009 - 11:29am #11

I like your thoughts on this, Gard. It's really about highlighting the good, as opposed to focusing on the negatives of his thinking.

I think I, along with many anarchist types, can get waaaay too into the whole drama of shouting folks down, as opposed to encouraging where they come close to the ideal we aspire to.


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I was going through "moderating" obvious spam posts in this thread, and sad to say I missed muse when they were in Salt Lake City last weekend.  :(


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I wonder why the concerned authorities are not taking any actions. As Matt Bellamy said, the end result will be a taxed, monitored ISP based on usage which will ensure both the freedom of the consumer and the rights of the artists. I think the concerned authorities didn’t take his opinion seriously.

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