The death of bin Laden won't change a thing.

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Jackie Fiest
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Posted on: May 1, 2011 - 10:01pm

None of our troops are coming home. We will still be over there for some reason. *coughoilcough*

This is going to piss off the extremists and could cause (will likely cause) another terrorist attack.

This is just going to inflate the American military ego and things are going to get worse.

UBL was a bad person, and to be honest, the world is better off without him. I just worry about ramifications. And again, nothing will change.

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Nich
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Posted on: May 2, 2011 - 1:41am #1

Theres a saying that wars are fought like the previous war, that lessons aren't learned until the next war.  IE destroying the enemy capital=win, fighting in a line, and the most current one, killing the leader=win.  Typically generals are set in their thinking and will not try anything new until its necessary.

  I wonder how many hundreds of thousands (or perhaps millions) manhours they spent hunting him, with the only real return on this effort being PR.

Retallion will come, not because the US gov't killed Osama Bin Laden, but because they will want to show us that it meant nothing.

 

EDIT:  Its getting closer and closer to re-election time..... kindof a convinent time to do this.


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FUR3jr
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Posted on: May 2, 2011 - 2:01am #2

I released my haiku for freedom on this topic into the diaspora

I got a response from no borders which read:

"kill people is'nt justice, is omicide"

To which I responded:

"Only love can conquer hate.  Those are words I learned from Marvin Gaye, who was shot to death by his father.

No doubt that many of the people killed by Usama Bin Laden were not deserving of it.  No person is pure evil.  In my view, Bin Laden was a child of God, as I am.  Many of the people killed directly, or indirectly, were innocent.  However, what I am looking for here is what can be gained by this man's existence.  How can the world be a better place because he lived?  How can we turn something, perceived by many to be a negative, into a positive?"

 


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Sophia
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Posted on: May 2, 2011 - 5:38am #3

Osama bin Laden might be dead but the bogyman will live on


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Sophia
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Posted on: May 2, 2011 - 10:30am #4

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Nich
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Posted on: May 2, 2011 - 1:13pm #5

I'd like to mention theres nothing that can be done to stop terrorist attacks if they wish to preform them.  I can think of plenty of effective ways to disrupt/cause fear on areas that have zero security. 

Imagine the chaos if a single interstate junction was attacked.  Even in the middle of the night, if ANY explosive whatsoever were to go off, they'd shut it down.  And obviously theres no security on the highway. You can grab an old car, pack it full of explosives, and kaboom it right underneath of overpass. It doesn't have to be even destroyed, just has to compromise the structural integrity.  And now you have a major logistics artery shut down costing transportation businesses millions of dollars.

Think about all the low security-high population density areas out there.  Theres just no way to provide security for all of it, and they cause easily do to the US what the Taliban did to the USSR in Afghanistan.  If you aren't familar with what happened there, they broke the USSR by attacking their convoys and bases thinning their security forces.  They would ambush convoys until security was too high, and because they pulled away troops from the base for convoy escort, the bases were left weakly defended.  So they would attack the bases until their security was increased(which had to be pulled from the convoys), and just go back to attacking convoys. 

The truth of the matter is actual damage done doesn't matter(outside of affecting morale).  If you can instill fear or force your enemy to spend more and more resources you will eventually drain them of their assets and morale.  Make them paranoid, deny them any notable victories, cause internal turmoil and distrust, and you basicly win.

A news article I read said that the body was already disposed of and dumped off at sea.  This is a bit fishy to me.  You'd think they would hold onto it as some sort of trophy.  Compare this to the attitude back in WWII where the body of Adolf Hitler was demanded to be seen. The blind trust in these reports is sickening. 


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Weedwacker
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Posted on: May 2, 2011 - 8:41pm #6

The engine of aggression marches forward, going where it always has, the minds of millions it's enabling cogs.  I'll take the voluntary withdrawl of a single one of those minds from the machine over the killing of a boogey man any day.   

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Nich
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Posted on: May 3, 2011 - 12:06am #7

One of my friends posted this on his facebook:

"I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy." - Martin Luther King, Jr


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Weedwacker
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Posted on: May 3, 2011 - 7:38am #8

In case anyone doubts the urgent need for elightenment of the human species.

 


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Sophia
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Posted on: May 3, 2011 - 12:30pm #9

Reminds of Team America

 

TEAM AMERICA FUCK YEAH!


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williamR
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Posted on: August 16, 2011 - 3:02am #10

I somehow agree to what have you said, though bin Laden is dead now nothing will changed. More people are thinking how slow are the US forces in killing bin Laden, more people will be a terrorist like bin Laden an maybe more people will take revenge for bin Laden. It is still a cycle, it is just like way back before in World War. So i think making the film for what happen to bin Laden is a good thing to make some people realize. The latest news about the film is that there's a political argument has begun over a forthcoming film depicting the raid that killed Osama bin Laden. It is rumored that the White House could have shared sensitive details, though the White House strenuously denies it. The director is Kathryn Bigelow, the Oscar-winning director of “The Hurt Locker.” She is said to have been given inside information by the White House. Article source: White House denies sharing inside info for bin Laden film