Cost of Stimulus Bill to Individual Taxpayers

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Posted on: February 19, 2009 - 8:38am

I'm looking for something I saw on FoxBusiness -  think it was Monday - on the cost of the stimulus bill, and the current budget.

It was a breakdown of the cost to individual taxpayers, broken down:

- Cost per individual

- Broken down by tax bracket

Both of these were figured as:

- Cost if being paid by taxpayer today in lump sum

- Cost if payed like mortgage, over time

I've searched both the foxbusiness website (not a great site, tho I'm sure it will improve as the channel is around longer), and perusing articles I've pulled up online. I can find the costs of individual programs, the overall costs, but not that one set of numbers I saw the other day. I really liked the explanation given for that last number, since the reporter explained the combination of inflation and increased taxes which make this one year's budget cost more per person than the average American makes in a year.

Has anyone else seen it? Do you know where I can find it?


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Posted on: February 21, 2009 - 11:45am #1

I finally found the clip, on Fox News. Couldn't get the text or a fancy graphic on the website, but I listened to the clip (sticker shock, in the videos section), and wrote it down. I've been irritated as hell about this for a few days now, so broke from talk of food and running to post this on my blog. My writing stinks, but the numbers are the important part:

Stimulus - Sticker Shock

The stimulus package passed. Instead of everything being sunshine & lollipops, I'm hearing there's already talk about a second stimulus, and possibly a third. Why not? TARP led to TARP 2, and the auto bailout didn't last more than a couple of months before it became known as the first auto bailout.

I've read the cost of individual portions of the bill, the total amount of spending, the number of jobs to be created, the various tax credits - both those which were cut and those kept. I was finding it hard to locate the actual cost to the individual tax payer. Until Monday or Tuesday of this week.

William La Juenesse was on Fox Business (my favorite cable news/business channel, by the way), with exactly the numbers I'd been searching. I found his earlier interview at FoxNews.com - in the Videos section, under "Sticker Shock." I couldn't find a written copy of the numbers, the automatic transcript was jumbled, and the video couldn't be embedded, so I listened through the clip, pencil in hand.

La Juenesse started with the official cost of the Stimulus Bill - $787 Billion, and questioned where the money would be coming from. 15% of the taxes collected in the US come from corporate taxes, so the majority will be paid by individuals. (That individuals also pay corporate taxes in the form of higher prices is a completely separate topic.)

La Juenesse spoke with John Lott, Economics Professor and author of Freedomnomics (great book), and with Kevin Hassett, a Columbia Univ. Economic Professor about the costs to the individuals.

Heritage has the cost at $8,000/year, per household, but Lott and Hassett answered questions I find much more interesting.

Current Deficit + Bank Bailout = $3.7 Trillion
Cost per Household = $27,000
With Stimulus Expense = $40,000
The average household income is pretty close to $40,000, in case you didn't know.

Question 1: If we had to pay for the Stimulus Package tomorrow, in a lump sum, how much would it cost?
Tax Bracket            Tax Bill
$25,000-30,000........$2,500
$75,000-100,000......$14,000
$100,000-200,000...$28,000
$200,000-500,000...$90,299

Question 2: If we finance at today's interest rates (30 years @ 4.5%), what will it cost?
Tax Bracket           Tax Bill
$25,000-30,000........$4,687
$75,000-100,000......$26.250
$100,000-200,000...$52,500
$200,000-500,000...$168,750

That's almost double the lump sum cost.

In all the talk of the spending - sorry - stimulus, the politicians are quick to point out the tax breaks. Sounds great, until you hear that the tax breaks amount to $400/year.

$400, against a personal tax bill of $2,500 to $90,000. Or, over 30 years, $12,000, against the $5,000 to $168,000 of borrowed money. This is without any additional deficit spending on new & improved stimulating bailouts.

We all know this is how it's going to be paid. There's nothing there. The treasury will be printing money, causing us all to pay the hidden tax of inflation. And when that's not enough, what's next? Increasing income tax? Extra payroll deductions? Value Added Tax?

As La Juenesse closed his segment...

It's going to cost either you and I or our children. One or the other, but we have to pay the piper.

The video clip continues with Peter Morici, Economic Professor from University of Maryland, discussing why the stimulus will fail, even when it delivers portions of what's promised - such as over 2 million jobs (temporary jobs, he points out). If you don't know Morici, you should watch his congressional testimony during hearings on the first auto bailout.